Interview
with David Ricker, Birmingham Film Commission member.
September 21, 2004
-by Paul Godbey, Reelscene Ezine
BIRMINGHAM,Ala.
Reelscene:
We've just finished with this part of the Birmingham City Council
meeting and tell us what the resolution was that was on the agenda?
David Ricker:
My understanding of the resolution was that the City Council just
approved giving $30,000 to the Metropolitan Development Board, which
in turn gives that money to the Jefferson County Commission to
create their own Film Commission.
Reelscene:
What has the Birmingham Film Commission done that the County can't
do or might be doing?
David Ricker:
What the County proposes is creating a 501-C-3 not-for-profit
organization, the Birmingham Film Commission was a governmental
entity. The differences between the two is a not-for-profit
organization like that the County Commission wants to create has no
governmental authority, it can not co-ordinate with the police
department, the fire department, park and recreation department,
etcetera in order to help facilitate production of movies,
commercials, anything of that nature in the city. Where as the
Birmingham Film Commission, a governmental entity, had the authority
to go to the police department and for example say 'hey, we need a
couple of streets blocked off, can you help us out, sure no
problem', because we would had had the backing of City Council, from
the Mayor's Office and so the fire department, whatever organization
with in the City would co-operate with us without any problem. Where
as, with the not-for-profit, they (police) would ask 'who are you
and what authority do you have ask us'.
Reelscene:
What about the disbursement of tax credits and such, would a 501-C-3
be able to do that?
David Ricker:
I am not sure. I have little information on that. I'd rather not
give an opinion.
Reelscene: It seems like that
a non-profit organization wouldn't be able to do any type of tax
credit, film credit....
David Ricker: You would think,
you would think, yes.
Reelscene: So that's yet to be
decided about the proposed Jefferson County Film Commission?
David Ricker: From my
understanding, yes.
Reelscene: What was your
presentation today?
David Ricker: My presentation
was to ask questions, to ask what is going on, what are you
doing, and to remind them they already have a film commission. Why
are they doubling their efforts?
Reelscene: What was your
stance as far as your presentation today?
David Ricker: My stance was
one of dismay, bewilderment. I have not been in touch with the
Birmingham City Council, nor they with me, as to what they plan on
doing with the Film Commission or with the County, etcetera. they
have not contacted us in any way.
Reelscene: The allocation the
Jefferson County Commission has for the $60,000, is that really
necessary in terms of the information that y'all already have?
David Ricker: No. We already
have the information so why go out and get again. Why spend the time
and money and effort to go out and get all that information when
it's right there at your finger tips.
Reelscene: Do you have any
information as to how the County has allocated that $60,0000.
David Ricker: No. All I know
is they're going to, from what I've heard in the media now, is they
plan on giving this money to a couple of individuals to create a
film commission, Alan Hunter and Erik Jambor. There may others
involved but those two specifically is what I've heard.
Reelscene: Based on other
media reports.
David Ricker: Yes, based on
media reports.
Reelscene: When was the
Birmingham Film Commission put together?
David Ricker: The Commission
itself was created in October 2003, in December 2003 five
individuals were actually appointed to the Film Commission.
Reelscene: And what was the
scope of the Birmingham Film Commission suppose to be?
David Ricker: One of our goals
was get the public schools system involved with film and television.
We were going to incorporate them into any kind of projects that
came our way. To give the kids an idea of what it's like to work in
the film and television industry and to give them an opportunity to
find out if that's what they want to do. As they grew up they would
know 'hey, I can stay in Birmingham and do this, I don't have to
leave Mom and Dad or my friends', because I can do that here. Based
on what the Birmingham Film Commission did.
Reelscene: Were you also
looking at staying just in Birmingham?
David Ricker: No.
Encompassing, we had talked with several municipalities about
getting cooperation from them when necessary.
Reelscene: There's about
thirty eight smaller ones around here.
David Ricker: Well, we hadn't
had enough time to talk with everybody, but some of the major ones
we had some preliminary talks with and they were very favorable to
what we wanted to do. And they were glad we came straight to them
and talked with then instead of going through the media.
Reelscene: So actually the
Birmingham Film Commission was going to set up as a regional film
commission.
David Ricker: Yes, it may of
had the name Birmingham but it was going to be a regional group,
yes.
Reelscene: What
did the Birmingham Film Commission do in the past?
David Ricker:
What we had already accomplished, we had been in talks with
several production companies out in California. One of them was set
to defiantly bring a major motion picture here to town. They wanted
to work with us for the very reasons I stated, that a governmental
entity can do, to help them co-ordinate all their activities without
any problems what so ever. If they would have done that with the
type of commission that the County wants to create they wouldn't be
able to have that co-operation, that's just fact.
Reelscene:
The proposed trip that the City Council wants to take to South
Carolina, what information do you have about the South Carolina Film
Commission.
David Ricker:
I would have to go through my files. But they, the South Carolina
Film Commission is a government entity, it has governmental
authority, it can do things. And they're very successful. They are
one of the, ... three or four of them we were closely looking at
modeling ourselves after. Now what the City wants to do with trips
is beyond me because all they had to do was ask their own Film
Commission, we've already done the research.
Reelscene:
So y'all already have the answer.
David Ricker:
We have the answers but they refuse to talk with us.
Reelscene: Who are the other
members of the Birmingham film Commission?
David Ricker: Rocky Reeves,
William Canty, Nathaniel Bagley, Taheria Monique Brown. Dr. Lisa
Pickett was going to be our Executive Director and Mr. Fred Purchis
was going to be our co-Executive Director. They would have done the
foot work. They had already started on that.
Reelscene: The establishment
of the Film Commission was going to also have an expansion at a
certain date?
David Ricker: Yes. In April of
this year the Park and Recreation Committee of the Birmingham City
Council had voted unanimously, unanimously to expand the Commission
to a total of nine members. Keep the original five appointees,
appoint two people from the Mayor's Office, and appoint two
from the Jefferson County Commission.
Reelscene: That would have
made it a regional film commission.
David Ricker: That would have
given you that pure definition of regional co-operation, yes. And I
should add that we had no plans that I know of to ask the County for
money in order to have positions on the Birmingham Film Commission.
Reelscene: Would these have
been paid positions?
David Ricker: No, these would
have not have been paid positions. The only paid positions were
going to be our Executive Director and Co-Executive Director. And
they would have been paid from funds we raised from sponsorships,
advertisements in the publications we had planned on, things of that
nature. That how we were going to generate our money.
Reelscene: Rather than asking
for tax money for this (Commission).
David Ricker: Correct. The
only tax money that was going to be spent was the initial seed money
of $63,000. That was going to be purely start up money. And after
that we were going to raise our own money, not tax payer
dollars, no.
Reelscene: What was the last
official communication you had about the Film Commission?
David Ricker: The last
official communication we had from Birmingham City Council was April
7, 2004 when they had approved the decision to expand the Birmingham
Film Commission. That was the last time, and I have that on tape, I
have their own words on tape 'Ladies and gentleman, the Birmingham
Film Commission'. And I had asked the question at that time 'when
can we officially start working, first week of May' was the answer
from Councilman Bert Miller. Since then we haven't heard any
information from the City Council, none what so ever.
Reelscene: From now what will
be the outcome of the Birmingham Film Commission, is it still going
to be hanging out in limbo?
David Ricker: As far as I'm
concern it's hanging in limbo right now because the City Council has
yet to address that question. The only thing they said to me today,
is they apologized for not having discussed this with us sooner. But
that does not answer the question 'what is to become of the
Birmingham Film Commission'.
Reelscene: When they (City
Council) voted to rescind the funding some people think that was the
end...
David Ricker: As far as I know
of they (City Council) have not voted, as far as I know they have
not voted to rescind that money, I don't know what has become of
that money.
Reelscene: So that vote was
not...
David Ricker: I think what
you're talking about is the day in, I think I believe it was in May
I'd have to check the newspapers again, believe it was on May, that
Councilman Bert Miller announced that he was disbanding the
Birmingham Film Commission. Oh, I'm sorry that was in March because
at the April meeting he was informed by his colleagues that he
can not do that legally, that it takes the entire City Council to
rescind anything that is created by the City Council.
Reelscene: The City Council
did vote on some entire measure concerning the Film Commission.
David Ricker: Did they? I'm
unaware of that. I don't know, honestly I don't know what they (City
Council) voted on or to rescind what.
Reelscene: Well I personally
don't have that information at the moment.
David Ricker: Oh, I'm sure you
can go to the Clerk's Office and find out.
Reelscene: Well thank you.
David Ricker: Your welcome.
Copyright 2004 by Paul Godbey, all
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